coming and welcome to "this week." no winner yet for the gop. >> tomorrow, we wake up and start again. >> mitt romney takes super tuesday. rick santorum shows strength with conservatives. while president obama focuses on his growing economy. >> more companies are bringing jobs back and investing in america. and the prospect of war. >> those who are beating the drum of war. topics for our headliners. senators chuck schumer and lindsey graham. game change controversy. >> how do we understand this

president? >> tom hanks narrates obama the movie. and kony 2012 goes viral. that and all of the week's politics with our powerhouse roundtable. mary matlynn, austan goolsbee, eliot spitzer and jake tapper. good morning. it's been a packed week if politics. we have new results this weekend in the republican primary fight. five more contests yesterday. rick santorum won the big prize in kansas, but romney claimed more delegates in the territories and wyoming. romney has more than double santorum's total. our powerhouse roundtable is standing by to analyze what's

next. but first our headliners. democratic senator chuck schumer and republican senator lindsey graham. senator graham, let e me begin with the economy. a confession from rick santorum last night after coming off his victory in kansas, he said that the economy may be getting better and the republicans may lose their edge on that issue, is he right and what does that mean for the general election? >> well, i don't think he's right at all. this is an anemic recovery after a pretty long recession. 35 months, over 8% of unemployment. the longest streak since the great depression. last month in february, the monthly deficit in the history of the nation, when you look at the stimulus package two years ago, they projected that unemployment at 6% 5%.

we're producing less oil in any time of the nation. so the economy is anemic at best and the policies of the president are going to make it impossible for this country to recover. >> so, senator schumer, to not even a glass half-full from senator graham? >> i think the republican party is on the defensive. the president was handed an awful situation, everybody knows that, greatest recession since the depression, 700,000 jobs lost the year he took office and now it's turning around because of his steadfastness. 200,000 jobs gained in the last three months. that's a real accomplishment, in addition, george, democrats are focused like a laser on jobs,

the economy and the middle class, republicans realizing that's not their strong suit are going off on these other things, women's issues and women's health and contraception and as a result we're in a stronger and stronger position, the women's vote, latest poll show that we're up by 15% because they want us to focus on the economy. >> senator schumer, let me follow up on that. this has clearly become a democratic theme this year and several democrats made a lot of hay with the comments of rush limbaugh last week, but some republicans are seeing hypocrisy there. i want to show an ad. they're saying that the democrats should be asking bill maher, the comedian to give back the $1 million to the super pac. >> bill maher here. sarah palin agreed to do

commentary at fox news. >> it's not because they have breasts, it's because they are boobs. >> should democrats give the money back? >> well, no, i mean, look the bottom line is, rush limbaugh's comments were nasty and directed at a particular young woman and was expressing herself. bill maher is a comedian. he's on at 11:00 at night but has very little influence on what's happening here. again, they're sort of in a hole and they're always trying to look for excuses. >> are you in that hole, senator graham? >> no, america's in a hole. two years since the stimulus was passed, george, they promised 8% unemployment by the summer of

2009, two years later, we're 8% 3%. obama health care was part of a party line vote. the small businesses by the administrati administration's own numbers would have to give up their coverage. it's adding to the deficit and the president said that i'm for all of the above when it comes to energy -- well, those are words coming out of his mouth, they don't come from his heart. no keystone pipeline. at the end of the day the my is not doing well because of his policies. >> let me follow up with senator schumer, you have been taking some heat for urging the president to petition saudi arabia for the oil, but they said that the focus should be increasing production here at home. >> we have to do both and once again, they don't have any real

answers. in the short term, we know why prices are up, it's iran and iran is threatening to cut off oil production. total iranian production is 2.2 million. if the saudis would promise that they would replace that barrel took off the market by iran, prices will plummet. our colleagues forget, oil production is up. it's higher than it's been in eight years, we are producing more natural gas and oil here in america. but at the same time, we have to do alternatives. our republican colleagueses, for instance are blocking tax breaks for wind and solar power, which is not the whole answer but part of the answer. we're looking to produce energy here in america in every way. one other thing that's affecting

conservation is having a huge effect. the mileage standards on cars are going to reduce the amount of imports we're going bring in. right now, we only import 40% of oil. it used to be 60 skt. we have to do something about the short run. >> let me bring that issue of iran to senator graham. you wrote a congressional resolution, last sunday president obama in his speech he seemed to agree. take a look. >> i do not have a policy of containment. i have a policy to prevent of iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. as i have made clear, i will not hesitate to use force when it's necessary to defend the united

states and its interest and are you in sync? >> well, i am very glad to hear that from the president. senator schumer and i have a resolution from the senate that says containment of a nuclear-armed iran is unacceptable. yes, i was very glad to hear that the president that we would not have containment. the problem is, during the three years in question, we talked to iran, they keep enriching. we impose sanctions they keep enriching. they have enough low-grade uranium now to make 1 1/2 bombs. israel is in a bad spot here. back to energy production. president obama has reduced energy production on publicly held land. 14%, 17% for natural gas. we're not producing oil on the

lands that the united states owns and all above it's just a phase. i will help the president where i can when it comes to iran. >> the israeli prime minister later this week said that it's possible strike against iran is not a matter of days or weeks away but it's not years either, are you worried that israel might strike during an election year and what must iran do to prevent it? >> well, you know, george, the israel and the united states are very tight on this issue. not only did the president said containment, second he said he would use military force, no d ands ifs or buts and if the sanctions fail, that military

force would have to be used. the sanctions are working. the president has done an amazingly good job here by trying corral all of the different nations here. as we speak, there are four iranian tankers traveling around the globe looking for a place to drop off their oil and countries don't want to deal with them because of the sanctions, so we're making real progress and everyone agrees that israel and the united states, best way sanctions. if they can work and the iranian people, you know, are secular people, they want economic advancement, that could put huge preshg on this administration to stop. as the president said if sanctions don't work, we'll have to use force. an american soldier went rogue and essentially killed 15 afghan civilians, everyone is bracing now for another backlash.

similarly to what we saw after the burning of the korans, are you getting worried that it's not sustain snbl. >> no, i believe, this is tragic and will be investigated and that soldier will be held accountable for his actions under the military justice system. unfortunately, these things happen in war. you just have to push through these things. my recommendation to the public is listen to general allen who comes back in two weeks. the surge of forces have put the taliban on the defensive. the goal is to withdraw our forces by 2014, put afghans in the lead and i hope our strategic partnership agreement between united states and afghanistan, to make sure that the taliban will never come back.

we can win this thing, we can get it right. i'll support the president when he does the right thing. >> leaving iraq unattended was a big mistake. >> you agree senator schumer? >> yeah, look, i think the president has a good plan, obviously, it's a very difficult situation. because we have real terrorism that emanated from the afghanistan. unlike president bush, the drones could go across the border in pakistan, the great weakness in afghanistan is karzai, nobody seems to trust him or like him and the idea of turning it over to the afghan forces is the right way to go but that's a major question mark. >> finally, senator graham, romney campaign said it's going

to take an act of god for the others in the race to beat him, are they right? is this race getting to the point where rick santorum and newt gingrich should drop out? >> good question. i wouldn't trade places with mitt if i were in the race. rick has done an outstanding job, rick has, starting with almost nothing and being a real conte contender. but mathematically this thing is about over. emotionally it's not. i think everybody believes if i can get one-on-one romney, i can win this. if romney does well in mississippi and alabama, i think it's virtually impossible for this thing to continue beyond may. it's romney's to lose. every time he had his back against the wall he performed.

i like his chances. the other two candidacy they have to make that decision themselves. we'll win in october because the three years that the president had to turn it around. >> you got that last plug in. got to go, senator. thank you both very much. let's bring in the roundtable now. take a look at the gop candidates courting and being courted by the south. >> i'm learning to say y'all and i like grits. good to be with you. delicious. ♪

♪ ♪ yes, i believe rick santorum is our man ♪ >> they call themselves the santorum girls. we welcome mary matalin, eliot spitzer, we have nicolle wallace, austan goolsbee and our own white house correspondent jake tapper. welcome to all of you. mary, let me begin where lindsey graham left off. you see 354 delegates for mitt romney. is romney right is the campaign right when it's going to take an act of god? >> i wouldn't throw god into

this equation at this point given what's happened. but mitt romney has won the most states, he has the best delegates, he has the most money, he's getting it done where he needs to get it done. he's just getting better. he's closing better. >> how does this end? >> well, let me say this, it goes on it's not a bad thing. the last campaign, the liberal campaign, they went into june and hillary was screaming at obama for being an elitist, saying shame on you, barack, that went into june, they did fine. mccain and kerry were the last nominees from a short campaign. >> one difference is the passion and the energy in the campaign which is totally lacking behind mitt romney, and the reason for that, there's three republican

parties, the libertarian party, theological party and mitt romney has what remains of the corporate party. the three don't go together well. when romney emerges there won't be any energy and passion behind him. hillary and barack there was energy that you haven't seen before. >> well, i mean, the major animating force in 2008 was their anger at the bush lel legacy and the bush years. it wasn't passion, love and after perfection for barack obama and hillary clinton. i think what mitt romney has going for him because people want him to do well, with as much intensity as anything else. so, people are pulling for him and people are desperate for him to look stronger, do bert and put this away. as much as i think that accept

the fact that it goes on and on for the general election, people want to see him stronger and they want to see him win races and they want to see him look like our nominee. >> he has picked up points week to week from traditional republicans. austan goolsbee, this idea of row mant sizing, a lot of talk about barack obama and hillary clinton getting together on the ticket, that brings me to the question that rick santorum will be able to demand if he continues to pick up delegates -- >> that's the conundrum, the puzzle of this race compared to 2008. if you look at the numbers it wasn't like this. it wasn't debilitating the candidates, their fay voshlt wasn't plunging among independents. what's happening in the republican primary is that as it

goes on it still remains interesting. it's just chewing them up and it's not clear if that's because what they're proposing. >> the enthusiasm among republicans is greater than among democrats. it's greater than it was in '08. >> independent voters. >> independent voters are turning very heavily against all of the republican candidates in a way that did not happen in the democratic primary. >> mitt romney his favorability among independents, how does that he fix that? >> he needs to win and win strong. that's not going to happen in alabama. i don't see any indication that santorum or gingrich are going

to drop out any time soon. both of their campaigns make the point, our paths may be difficult, romney has to win 50%. the romney people will acknowledge that the campaign as it goes forward today could deny him the key number of delegates. and if you talked to the gingrich people they are already talking about how gingrich is going to go to tampa -- >> no matter what. >> and they say, gingrich is the only one who has run a w.h.i.p. operation. that says to me they're literally preparing for a floor fight. >> that's the critical point. >> how do independent voters view these candidates independent voters will determine that. the narrative over the next few weeks will be determined by both gingrich and san tournament.

the theological vote that's dividing voters apart will be a factor. >> nine months before the election, we're predicted of the head to head. >> independents -- >> mary and nicolle, how does mitt romney manage to continue to try to get consecutives over to his side while reaching out to independents? >> i think the troubles that he's having bringing along the hard-core elements of our base will serve him well in the general. it was a little bit similar to what john mccain faced. some of the more difficult things to swallow for women's voters who make up a majority of independent voters -- >> mccain didn't do well with

latino voters. >> but women, though. i think romney will have an easier time. i think some of the social issues don't attach themselves to romney. >> find a place to pick a fight, show some distance from the base of the party? >> that's ridiculous pundit strategy. i don't care what -- you can look at any poll and by three to one, i don't care what kind of conservative you are, you care about economy. very last thing voters say they care a about are social issues. he's going to be running against barack obama, whose numbers as an incumbent closely resembled bush one.

this that this is a goldwater or gold analogy? it's just that. >> here's what i would say, you're right. the economy will be dispositive and that story line will increasely come back to the white house and be favorable. on your issues on social issues and women's issues, the republican party is losing and going to the wrong way. i want to talk about the general election. that's coming up. economy, iran and the election. also kony 2012, after the hype, can social media make a difference? >> it's obvious that kony should be stopped. and -- "game change." documentary or propaganda? >> the women of america --

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i don't think it's double dip. >> they may be borrowing in the spring and summer. >> maybe. but it's pretty broad-based. if it were just coming from whether you thought that the jobs would primary concentrated in weather-related industries, it wasn't just that. over six months we're running at a 2.5 million jobs a year pace. that would be a pretty decent year even in an expansion. i think the fear is, we just slowed down a little bit, instead of growing 2% or 3%. we grew 1%. as the economy is growing, you'll see as you have seen the last couple of months, a whole lot of people coming out of the labor force. >> but, nicolle, republicans might look at the number -- santorum said last night conceding that the democrats may

have an edge going forward. >> women have become a vibrant part of the work force, they do it all, right? they're in charge of the family budget. this issue of a government that's spending more than it has, still hasn't turned it around to the voter's satisfaction becomes potent. mitt romney isn't a candidate to root against the economy. he's rooting for good news on the economic front. he understands how vitally important the economy is to the american family. >> i don't know. >> i think rick santorum said that by the way because he wants to refocus on the theological issues. i can win talking about social issues. i think that's tactical issue. that's the most important measure in the successes in the economy.

>> the jobs being created are an issue for anybody. the idea that we're creating jobs is great. these aren't the jobs for the future for the most part. these are a lot of service jobs, lot of health care jobs, these are not -- not all of them, obviously, but a lot of these jobs are temp workers people trying to get by >> i don't think for some time that was true, but the last several months, it's been pretty broad-based. manufacturing job growth is about it's been in 15 years. i think it's been a particularly strong period and the question really is, can that be sustained? >> now, i think on the deficit, the republican primary that we were talking about before has kind of tempted these candidates into a bad space. i think personally that's why

independents are reacting badly is, the deficit's been a significant issue since we had the worst downturn since the depression. and you seen each of the republican candidates, propose tax plans that would explode the deficit $2 trillion to $4 trillion. >> people who are voting do not measure their economic stability or sustainability on the employment numbers or the labor force participation or the dow or the nasdaq, they measure it by the pump, filling up their car, women, you fill up your suv, $96 to fill up my car, or your groceries your energy, or your health care premiums. those issues they blame on obama. independent voters don't necessarily blame him for this. but they think his policies have

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think the cost and benefits -- >> that wasn't the documentary. this is going to be what you're setting up here republicans saying that the president made things worse, he's going say that he faced the toughest challenges and we're making focus. >> yeah, elections are always, always about the future so i hope they spend a whole lot of time talking about that fact. because that will set us up in a way that will serve our party well. remember all too well where they were four years ago and it was very scary for many people. partisan bickering. part of why they're so turned off. >> the attempted pivot, remember how bad things were four years ago, that's where mitt romney will take us. >> people will think back -- >> do you think people will buy

that -- >> they think they're concerned about the future in ways they weren't. this is despair. >> people think their kids have a worst shot at the future than they did. >> they consistently went criticized about their jobs record, they did job create, they said, you can't blame us for the recession that we inherited. they track their jobs progress from the lowest point of the business cycle. if you do that, the economy has added millions of jobs, it's precisely the republicans who are saying, no, no, let's go back and let's count the first six months of the administration when all of the massive damage takes place. >> the question are you better

today than you were four years ago? we had the worst six months in the data. >> a pre-9/11 and a post-9/11 security world. there's a prix 9/15 and post-9/15 which was the collapse of lehman brothers. people really have a despair about the future, they don't see a way out of this. they just think he's a weak leader. >> but mary i'll accept your point of a leigh man brothers point but the public understands that crisis was a consequence of the bush/reagan era. independent voters are now looking at president obama saying that he has saved us from

something that was utter failure. >> no. >> the metaphor will be the auto industry, where the crisis will, either you supported it. president obama will say we saved it. mitt romney would let them go bankrupt. >> mitt romney has an economic plan, and it has not received a significant amount of attention in the primary because the other republican candidacy have very similar plans but the you start looking at it's back to the same old let's deregulate everything, let's massively cut taxes for high-income people. it's not the kind of think that america is going to look at and say, that's going to work. it worked great the last time. >> mitt romney is not making a unique argument, there is an opportunity for mitt romney to

say, the obama model fails, the bush model fails, here's the romney model. it's the third model. >> and mary, how does he deal with the issue of his wealth in a general election? how serious of a problem is it? >> one thing that he needs to do is quit being defensive about this. this is an aspirational country. when he says i'm an america success story and bayne is a america success story. i think he'll get there. because he has the heart and soul and his family does of an average american family >> and his wife is already there. >> i agree with mary, that prescription is never to play defense.

if you're playing defense in politics, you're losing. be affirmative. >> how does he answer the question, nicolle, when the democrats say that he's given himself a massive million-dollar tax break while cutting medicare? >> well, look, i don't think that voters are going to be looking at what he's done for himself -- he's followed the laws of the land. no one is suggesting that he has broken any current tax issues. the debate is not whethwhether . republicans are happy to have a debate about tax cut. they have been outspoken about tax reform. president obama took a pass on bringing in outspoken

republicans. obama is vulnerable. >> he did take a pass on the big deal. we don't have to relitigate. there were weaknesses on both sides. what happened last year was, it was tough negotiating with buoyner, but this other group of senators came out and president obama was put in a position to change the stakes. question is whether or not -- >> they reversed themselve on tax reform. republicans sported tax reform. closing the loon holes. low ering the rates. >> the question of what house republicans would have voted for is a very serious question. >> it could have brought the republicans with speaker boehner. >> i want to switch gears right now, something remarkable

happened on the internet this week, this video about joseph kony, war lord in central africa, for the last 20 years, a group invisible children does a 30-minute video about it, it has gotten close to 1 million hits across the web in the last week alone. here's a little bit of it. >> since the government said it was impossible we didn't know what else to do but to tell everyone else about jacob. and when we did, people were shocked. and their awareness turned into action. >> mary, you had a story like so many others around the country and the world, you first heard about it my daughter. >> my 13-year-old called me and it's an emergency on the road, it's a jimmy choo sale. i never expected to hear this. and she was so on it.

have you done anything about it? you republicans are having problems with the youth vote. you could get ahead of the story. you could get the youth vote. i was like, you're only 13. it captured in a way that's potentially dangerous. because they don't have the capacity -- it's just a tool for good or ill as we learned against the asymmetrical that we're working with, they don't have the capacity at this age to study and research the complexity and this one is complex and a lot of critics have come out. >> look, there was a little criticism when america's most wanted first came out, that people said, it's diverting attention from other kind of crimes. when they first started putting the lost kids on milk cartons,

lot of media technologies that as they come in, we don't know what to make of it. but in the end, i think we're going to look back and say, these are pretty exciting, that people are moving -- that we brought down -- we solved dictatorships brought down by people on facebook. >> is this activism or slacktivism? >> it's both. but i'm with austan. it's an amazing new arena where information flows rapidly to diverse audiences. it has to be good for humanity. let me give you another aspect to this, it may solve campaign finance. money becomes less valuable and important when a video can go

viral at almost cost-free. i think so many issues will be takin taking hit. >> i i'm reminded of a video from iran in 2009, an image that broke hearts. it has to connect the two. and bush speechwriter wrote the comment on this, empathy is not a zero sum game. >> increasing the awareness. >> it's a good thing. >> awareness is a good thing. as somebody who tried and failed to get stories on air. to take on joseph kony. very little interest or awareness by the public. bravo to them. the question is to what end? things in that video aren't

factually accurate. he's not in uganda, joseph kony. there are not 30,000 soldiers. >> he'll probably be one of the most famous man in the world on april 20th. nicolle wallace, you served in the mccain campaign. we'll show a clip from "game change." talking about the infamous interview about katie couric. >> you called that interview fair? >> i do. >> i don't. >> the interview sucked because you didn't try. >> what do you mean? >> you just gave up. >> nicolle wasn't my fault. i wasn >> i am not your puppet! >> how true to life? >> well, true enough to make me squirm, you know, this is a

movie about campaign staff and this isn't a movie about mccain and palin, this movie is about thes vast gray area of where the 99% of politics takes place. the truth is, i think everyone around this table has had some experience in their political careers, you're feeling your way through a very gray area, doing your best. >> a bit of a backlash, mary, lot of points in that movie that are sympathetic to sarah palin. >> the movie is -- a life long democratic called me and said game change was a channel change for me. it's a fictional movie. it's meaningless other than i

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